Minutes from 11 February 2009

2009/02/11 CSEP meeting

Attendees: Yan K., Jeremy Z., John Y., Masha L.


  1. CSEP V9.1.1 release has been installed on csep-op Thursday, January 29, 2009:

    • All forecasts are generated for new groups that were introduced in CSEP V9.1.0
    • Yan took a look at generated forecasts for all testing regions on the web - they all look reasonable
  2. Yan received manuscript on RELM test results, will send out comments if any
  3. Yan send Jeremy manuscript on PDE catalog
  4. Masha circulated a document with requirements for model submission to the testing center
    • Waiting for final edits from Phil
  5. Masha is helping Matt to introduce new forecasts groups to New Zealand testing center:
    • Matt requested Trac ticket #133: Allow specification of uncertainties to create modified catalogs
  6. csep-op is running out of disk space (40Gb left vs. 75Gb last week)

    • John is working on getting more disk space
  7. Tasks for V9.4 release:
    • RELM S (space) and M (magnitude) evaluation tests are available on csep-cert for RELM 5-year forecasts groups

    • Staging of existing raw catalog data to be used by re-processing - work in progress
      1. Masha discovered lost reproducibility for first 3 operational months of raw one-day forecasts files due to:

        • V1.0 didn't create metadata files for forecasts files as they were generated by the model codes
        • V1.0 did create metadata files for forecasts files converted to XML format, but these files were re-generated due to discovered bug (Trac ticket #91)
        • Possible solutions:
          1. Can manually re-store metadata files for forecasts based on easy isolation of run-time Dispatcher directories that store input catalogs used by these forecasts
          2. Can use metadata of XML format forecast to stage existing raw catalog - downloaded at time of re-creating XML format forecasts with CSEP V8.7.0
          3. Masha will talk to Danijel to decide which approach to use
    • New web representation of test results:
      1. Danijel suggested to create plots for all results on the web-server site
      2. Acceptance tests for web viewing code
      3. Will need to publish already existing test results in XML format, but extra care must be taken in posting re-processed test dates - only latest results should be posted
    • New web-page for the CSEP:
      1. Meeting with Tran and John M. to review existing themes tomorrow, February 12, at 11:00am
    • Modular functionality of the CSEP Toolkit:
      1. Most of the modules can be invoked in standalone mode
      2. There is a lack of documentation on how to invoke modules:
        • Use Doxygen?
    • Distribution of CSEP and dependent packages to other testing centers
      1. Might be time-consuming to set up rpm distribution, but beneficial not to provide support in a future to other testing centers when they upgrade CSEP
    • New models for Global testing region from Yan, Danijel:
      1. Yan has global forecast models using CMT catalog (M>=5.8) and PDE catalog (M>=5.0)

        • Danijel suggested to install CMT version of the model
        • Masha will send email to Yan with model requirements for the submission
        • Masha will take a look at Yan's Fortran code to evaluate how easy it's to install within CSEP Testing Center
    • Re-processing due to Trac ticket fixes:
      1. #110: RELM Mainshock forecasts groups should use declustered catalog for evaluation tests
      2. #128: N-test delta should be computed as poisscdf(N, lambda)
      3. #114: Cutting catalog to geographical region eliminates valid events if their longitude or latitude values fall on the area cell borders
        • Should stage existing raw catalog, re-create observation catalog, and time-dependent forecasts
      4. #113: ANSS events with missing depth value have their time set to 00:00:00 by Matlab import routine
      5. #121: r-test results flipped
      6. Might have an issue with reproducibility of existing test results if re-generate time-dependent forecasts due to the above problems
    • OS upgrade to Fedora Core 10